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Self-made trailer (HP 500) .... which wheels?

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    Hello ...
    I registered again because I have problems with my trailer!
    The following: It is a self-made HP500. This has been around for a few years and should now get new wheels and a new TÜV.
    The following information is in the vehicle letter:

    Open Box Trailer (5102)
    Otherwise. Annex manufacturer (0800)
    Self-made
    KTA04057588
    5.20-13 (other suitable tire sizes permitted) .... rim ???
    GDR single operating permit

    There are now GDR bikes 6.00-13 on it, but they have to go down.
    Now wanted to order two new bikes, but don't know which ones.

    Can someone tell me here which tires / rims are allowed?
    Thanks & greetings Horido

  • Hello.

    And once again the most important "pictures" are missing!
    We have some here that are doing well on GDR trailers,
    But when it comes to self-construction, you need either a broken glass ball or meaningful pictures of the axle.

    Greetings benni

    Eduard repeat offender

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  • These are Trabant rear axles. Accordingly, the 4J13 rims will also be from the Trabi.
    Instead of the cross-ply tires, you can, for example, mount radial 145 / 80R13 without having to change the papers.

    Your TÜV would also have to know that and wave the trailer through without nagging about the tires at the HU. There's a list, I'll see if I can find it again.

    mfg YEAR

    P.S. Heidenau also offers tires that look like the old ones. If the look is important to you ...

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    First of all, thank you for your info and sorry that I was not online for 3 days .... Broken router and therefore everything dead!

    New complete wheels (tubeless) should be put on the trailer, as the current ones are already rusty and old.
    Now the question: which one can I put on it? Tire size is already clear, but which rim?
    The offset, hole spacing, etc. must fit ..... oh dear, can someone tell me what exactly?
    Not that there is an Evil Awakening at the TÜV ...
    I would also be grateful for links where you can order the right bikes right away.

    Greetings Horido

  • ... Which ones can I put on it? Tire size is already clear, but which rim?
    The offset, hole spacing, etc. must fit ..... oh dear, can someone tell me what exactly?
    ...

    If you don't know exactly then you ask - as far as logical. But JAU has already written to you that it is a Trabant axle (more precisely triangular link from the Trabbi) and even Trabant rims.

    These are Trabant rear axles. Accordingly, the 4J13 rims will also be from the Trabi.
    ...

    There was only one kind of ET / LK etc. concerns. Well, the hole design has changed over the years and very early there were some with a retaining ring for hubcaps (like yours).
    So somewhere (there are enough sources these days) get rims and put new tires on them.
    You also live in the east - they know that!

  • There were small differences. The rims from the Wartburg looked the same, but were 1/2 "wider. I just don't know what kind of ET they had.
    And with the four-stroke engines, the bolt circle was changed. From 4x160 to 4x98.

    Tubeless rims were also available later. With them, the embossing ends with an "H". You also get unused rims. https://www.trabiteile.de/product_info.php/products_id/2251 The times when original parts were cheap are definitely over ...

    On the rear axle, however, drums with drilled holes can also be mounted on 4x100. https://www.trabiteile.de/product_info.php/products_id/640

    mfg YEAR

    P.S. And this time, please leave out the bold font.

  • There were small differences. The rims of the Wartburg looked exactly the same, but were 1/2 "wider. ...

    Are you coming out - to be an Ostalgiefan?

    ... and the ´bumped rims´ from the 353 have an ET of 45. Not to be confused with those from the F9 or 311 =).
    Incidentally, the 4x13 from the Trabbi have ET35 - in case the selection is bigger than I thought.

  • Are you coming out - to be an Ostalgiefan?


    The first car always has to be something special, that's how I got into it.
    But I have nothing to do with Ostalgie. I have a certain interest in the vehicles, but keep my distance from the scene of yesterday's forever.

    mfg YEAR

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    Hello again ...

    So, the trailer now has TÜV (without defects :))! The problem is still that the ancient bikes are still there! The examiner said that a maximum of 165 (width) was allowed on it.
    I would now like to buy two COMPLETE WHEELS somewhere, just don't know where and which one.
    I noted: tires 6.00-13, rim 4 1/2 Jx13, hole spacing 11.5cm (can that be?).
    Can someone give me a tip here where I can get two bikes cheaply? And one more thing: They should be tubeless.

    THANK YOU for answers & greetings Horido

  • At the risk of getting a get; Read on here!

  • I would now like to buy two COMPLETE WHEELS somewhere, just don't know where and which one.


    You won't get complete bikes.

    Furthermore, I refer to the link that has already been posted.

    I noted: Tires 6.00-13


    These are the old, no longer used names for diagonal tires. Are still available, but I recommend you to sit down before you follow the link: ReifenDirekt - 6.00-13

    Get modern radial tires! 145 / 80R13 or 155 / 70R13 are available for less than 30 € (without assembly).

    Hole spacing 11.5cm (can that be?).


    holecircle: 160x4
    Gave my knowledge only on East German vehicles. Since they haven't been built for> 25 years ...

    Can someone give me a tip here where I can get two bikes cheaply?


    As already mentioned: cheap is not.

    They should be tubeless.


    What you have to watch out for, I said, the above shop also sells them accordingly.

    mfg YEAR

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    Now I want to take up the old topic again, because I still want to know something ...

    The following: The trailer now has TÜV (without defects), wheels also fit ... so everything is good!
    I was now at the registration and was a little surprised. Registration fees were € 46.50, registration fees for a car cost € 31.20!
    Now I wonder why the trailer costs so much more ??? Can anyone explain that to me?
    And one more thing: At the registration office I was told that the trailer also costs taxes ..... well something! Insurance is clear, but taxes?

    THANK YOU for your answers & greetings Horido

  • Tax rate for trailers is in the KraftStG § 9 Abs. 1 Nr. 5 .:

    Vehicle trailers for a total weight of 200 kg or part thereof EUR 7.46, but not more than EUR 373.24.

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    Jay

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