Exceeding the tourist visa in Argentina at what time of the year

Argentina

  • carolin7718.08.2009, 20:23

    Hello Lars,
    A few brief answers to your questions, based on my knowledge from 2 years ago when I emigrated:

    - The import conditions are very strict, the customs duties are very expensive, and it is advisable to bring a few gifts for customs officials and family. Since you are returning as a returnee, you can move, because as a tourist you are only allowed to take limited equipment with you. I asked the Argentine Consulate General in Frankfurt (address on the Internet), who in turn gave me the address of the customs office or similar where you can request the customs conditions. The list of prohibitions is very, very long! As far as I can remember, everything mechanical, as well as food and plants, is forbidden. However, I don't know how this will ultimately look like in the implementation ... For a car, for example, you pay 100% customs on the new price!

    - The German pension insurance also pays you your pension abroad, no matter where you are. A payout beforehand would be nice, but it is practically impossible - there are very clear rules and restrictions, as far as I can remember this is only possible in the first 2 years after entering professional life. But you can also inquire about this directly with the pension insurance company.

    - I also inquired about container shipping, but found this not worthwhile due to the customs duties and the costs. Calculate the costs against the value and the purchase value here in Argentina - it is usually hardly worth it. In the first six months you can have duty-free 20 kg parcels sent to you, which in my opinion is more worthwhile for the most important and essential items.

    You will be amazed how little of your things you really need here ...

    If you have any further questions, get in touch.
    All the best and good luck,
    Caro

  • Unfortunately, I cannot help you with customs regulations and containers.
    We're going to sell just about everything here and leave with as little as possible. Therefore we did not inquire in this direction. But on the homepage of the Argentine Consulate I read something about the import regulations ...

    I got in touch with the immigration agency ARCA and was unfortunately disappointed.
    You can only apply for the investor visa if you already have a company and it is not allowed to be in Argentina. We can't show this.
    Always thought that this applies to willing foreign investors who want to start a company in Argentina.

    We are both in our 30s and therefore cannot apply for a visa for retirees. And neither are we married or related to Argentines.
    Is there any way to gain a foothold in Argentina other than a job? There is probably only this option left. But as I could read from here, it is better to take a look on site.
    That probably means breaking up all the tents here, looking for a job there with a tourist visa within 3 months and hopefully finding it, and then applying for the visa. Under what conditions can this be extended by another 3 months?
    As I can see, we are very dependent on help or tips from others.
    The matter is proving to be far more difficult than initially thought.
    Does anyone happen to know a good job exchange with jobs in Argentina for Germans?

    Thank you in advance...

    LG,
    Lothar

  • christine 08/24/2009, 11:31 am

    Hello Lothar,
    we will also emigrate to Argentina soon, only that I am going back, I grew up in Argentina in the prov. cordoba. Nowadays it is not that easy to immigrate to Argentina, actually, but actually it is. The problem with the tourist visa is that you are not allowed to work while on a tourist visa. But if you drive briefly across the border when the tourist visa expires, the popular destination is usually Paraguay, you can either have your tourist visa extended once by 3 months, or use the new entry directly if you have a job to get a residence permit, but you have to have an employment contract with an assurance of at least 3 years. But is everything actually not as bad as it sounds ... where do you want to go in Argentina, do you already have a destination? What is your job? When do you want to leave?
    If you want to get in touch, you can also do that at [email protected] The Caro here from this forum can perhaps give you useful tips, as she has been in Argentina for 2 years. She can report on site.
    I can only exchange long-term experiences, since I have spent half my life there, but now I also have a German husband and 2 German children for whom you first have to get the papers together. But we will also take care of everything on site.
    We go just like you only with suitcases and the bare essentials.
    Well, I hope I could help you a little.
    Greetings Christine

  • carolin77 08/25/2009, 5:30 am

    Hello Lothar,
    now I had just written you a long answer to Christine’s nice introduction (I’m the Caro she’s talking about) when I was kicked out by my miserable internet connection ...
    So again, but only very briefly, my bed calls out: I have completely different information about the investor visa, just don't worry about it. That can be regulated.
    For more, write an email, I'll be happy to answer! ([email protected])
    All the best for the realization of your dreams and plans - believe me, it's worth it ...
    Kind regards from Mendoza at the foot of the Andes,
    Caro

  • Hello Christine,
    hello Caro,

    Thank you for your nice answers.
    It is really nice when you notice that you are being helped and you support each other.
    Hopefully I can return the favor to you for that. Who knows, maybe then in Argentina
    For us it is no longer a question of whether, but when we go. We would like to be there by the middle of next year at the latest. At least the preparations are already under way.
    I noticed that immigration is no longer that easy, but after the statement from the lady from ARCA, I was a bit confused. Because she said to apply for an investor visa I MUST already have a company, and this MUST NOT be in Argentina ("The business or investment SHOULD BE OUTSIDE ARGENTINA, not IN ARGENTINA"). And this company has to guarantee me a monthly income of $ 1,200. If you want, I can send you all the mail. It's all in English, but I can translate it for you if necessary. Everywhere I read that you need the 102,000 ARS for the investor visa. So I don't understand why the good woman portrays this differently. Of course, you can also immigrate with a 3-year employment contract, so I'm now looking for a job in parallel, in case it is not possible to apply for an investor visa.
    So my girlfriend is a kindergarten teacher and I work in IT, but we are not too good for any work and would also work outside of the profession we have learned. First of all, we look for suitable vacancies. But we are only at the beginning of our journey.
    Whether it is an investor visa or a job, we would like to roughly narrow it down to the area of ​​Mendoza, Bariloche, San Martin de los Andes or Neuquen. However, we have not yet decided exactly.

    So that's it for now ...
    I will also write to you directly, thanks for the e-mail addresses.
    By the way, mine is

    Took out your email. I think it's dangerous you never know who is reading it. There are still PN for e-mail addresses. Just think that it is also in your interest.


    LG,
    Lothar

  • carolin77 08/27/2009, 05:32 AM

    Hello Lothar,
    I of course advocate MENDOZA !!
    In addition to the purely emotional reasons for this, I also have factual reasons, which I am happy to explain here - 200,000 tourists in the city only in summer enable us immigrants to do a lot.
    Get in touch, there is still a lot to tell .. I would be happy if we keep in touch!
    As before, as far as the investor visa is concerned, I really have different information.
    See you soon,
    Caro

  • bernhardine20090 November 2nd 2009, 5:11 pm
    Quote by lars76726
    yes there are already some questions ... which I don't know at the moment.
    - Has anyone had experience with container shipping and can make recommendations or has negative things to report?
    so that for now!
    greetings to all in the forum
    Hello everyone,
    I can possibly contribute something on the subject of container shipping.

    In a nutshell: my husband and I came to Cordoba in September. My husband is Argentinian, so a returnee.

    We had a 25 m3 container door to door from Dresden to Córdoba. The total costs for collecting the items, shipping and transporting them to their destination amounted to almost 6000 EUR. Then there were the port fees and customs clearance in Buenos Aires. That was around 700 EUR. We did not pay import duties because my husband is a returnee and has lived abroad for more than a year. The removal goods are not cleared.
    It's quite a lot. But we took everything with us, i.e. all the household items. We thought for a long time whether it was worth it. At the end of the day, you probably get slightly less if you have to buy everything from scratch, especially since z. B. Electrical and electronic devices of any kind are almost as expensive as in Germany and you can only sell things at home, in Germany, at a loss ... In addition, there is the time that you need to buy new ones ...

    In the end, everyone has to work out for themselves whether it's worth it.

    I hope this helped you further.
  • lars767260 3rd November 2009, 5:19 pm

    Thanks for the message and that matches what we have learned so far. did you also have a car with you?
    how long was the container on the road?
    yes we have now had offspring as we planned. what are your job-wise activities in argentine, did you perhaps bring ideas from germany?
    I would also be happy to receive other tips.
    see you and thank you very much
    lars, ros and little sarah

  • near Oslo 11/3/2009, 7:34 pm
    Quote by lars76726
    Thanks for the message and that matches what we have learned so far. did you also have a car with you?
    how long was the container on the road?
    yes we have now had offspring as we planned. what are your job-wise activities in argentine, have you brought ideas from germany with you?
    I would also be happy to receive other tips.
    see you and thank you very much
    lars, ros and little sarah
    When we moved to Norway we had a container offer, but we didn't accept it because our so-called list calculation resulted in 41 m3, which couldn't be. The counter offer via road and ferry was calculated with the same calculation system on cubic meters with 23 m3 and came to us at half the costs.
    We were unlucky to have come across an unsound provider. My girlfriend emigrated to Hungary and had a great container move - also with a car and two-wheelers - everything went really well, no problems and was very satisfied!
    So good luck!

    Greetings from
    near Oslo
  • bernhardine2009 11/16/2009, 4:51 pm

    Hello Lars,

    We didn't have a car with us. That would have cost another approx. 2000 EUR container and customs clearance plus additional taxes (50% of the value). In our eyes it was not worth it. We didn't have a car in Germany before because it wasn't necessary. Here, however, you need one - we will get one soon.

    The container was en route from door to door for a total of 5 weeks.

    My husband is a scientist and has accepted a position at the university. I'm not working at the moment, I need a little more time to master Spanish in such a way that I can really get along in the world of work without any problems ... Besides, I don't have all the papers together yet. By the way, you have to be very patient to handle the paperwork!

    I guess finding work isn't the problem here as long as you're somehow qualified or have connections. Or you can set up your own business, preferably with something that doesn't yet exist in this form here ...

    Greetings to Germany!

  • terranova 06/12/2010, 2:58 pm

    hello caro! i intend to move to cordoba or mendoza this year. is the climate there very harsh in winter, what is the crime like? i currently live in the caribbean and want to move to argentina for political reasons (chavez-venezuela). I am also concerned about the political development in argentina, which is very much influenced by chavez. the kirchner mafia will probably abdicate because it has lost the majority in parliament. however, politicians like solana are nothing better. he is very thick with chavez! i am going to open a franquicia in argentina, what about the real estate offers, rents. there is no smart homepage about real estate offers like in venezuela or panama. what is the cost of living? is there a waldorf school or other german schools? one can open dollar accounts. what about the residence permit?
    I'd be happy to hear from you!!

    caribbean greetings

    klaus hoffmann

  • bernhardine2009 06/23/2010, 3:34 pm

    Hello Klaus,

    I can possibly contribute something to Cordoba. I live there.
    Regarding the climate: it's winter at the moment and it actually works. The temperatures can go up to 20 degrees during the day on sunny days. It's cold at night, around 0 degrees. Usually the climate here is very dry. This year, however, the weather is influenced by "El Ninho" and it rains unusually much for this time of the year ... From September it will slowly get warmer again ...
    The cost of living here is relatively expensive compared to other Argentine cities.
    The rents are also relatively high. If you want to rent something, you need between one and three "guarantors" who vouch for you with their income. At least that's the case with houses and apartments. You should plan that too. There is no such thing as rent deposit here ... If you are looking for real estate, try trovit.com or the local newspapers lavoz.com.ar or cadena3.com.ar.
    There is a German school in Córdoba: http://www.colegioaleman.com.ar/
    Dollar accounts can be opened.
    Cordoba is not a particularly beautiful city, at least not to live in. She is very dirty. The entire infrastructure is in a very bad condition, actually in the whole province. You have to be patient to handle the paperwork. I am waiting for B. on my DNI since December - but is actually absolutely necessary for everyday things (bank account opening, driver's license, etc.)! You come out of Córdoba and have the feeling of being in another world ... Especially when you compare Córdoba to Mendoza ...

    I hope this helped you a little!

    Many greetings from Cordoba

  • terranova 06/24/2010, 02:20 am

    hello bernhardine,
    thank you for your information about cordoba. but I will probably open my shop inbuenos aires, tigre after all. my wife was in buenos aires a few weeks ago and is absolutely thrilled. I also like tigre very much, as I don't have to go to the capital.

    if you have any information about buenos aires, san isidro or tigre i would be grateful.

    saludos

    Klaus

  • Hello dear emigrant community ...
    to keep you up to date with what it looks like with us at the moment, as already mentioned above, here is a small update ...

    Unfortunately we are still in Germany

    But a lot has happened in the meantime, and it's not long until then.
    I married my girlfriend at the time in September.
    The apartment and work were also given notice here.

    We have almost all the papers together (with notarized, apostille )
    However, we still have to have this translated, but we will do that on site for cost reasons.
    Since we have relatives in Madrid, we will fly there first at the end of August, and then stay there for a maximum of 2 months.

    We are both currently doing a Spanish language course at the VHS and we will also add one in Madrid.
    But then it goes from Madrid to Neuquen.
    From there towards San Martin de los Andes, Bariliche, El Bolson ...

    After several tips from emigrants, but also from locals, we also think that it is better to focus everything on the language first.
    On site we will then look around regarding place of residence and job ...
    But first let's take a look at everything ...

    @Caro and Christine ...

    hope you both are fine! I haven't heard from each other for a long time.
    Many greetings, still from DE!

  • @Kanto: The translations have to have it done on site, as they have to be by an officially approved translator in Argentina, and then have to be certified by the "Collegio de Traductores". But it is relatively cheap there, a simple document (e.g. German certificate of good conduct with apostille) A $ R 120, - and another 40 for the college stamp. I can recommend a translator to you, PN if you are interested.

    @ Terranova: It depends on what you want to offer in your business. The places you mentioned (San Isidro, Tigre, but also Vicente Lopez, Olivos, etc., so everything in the north of Buenos Aires along the Panamericana) are for the most part quite well-off residential areas with small centers, and some huge shopping centers on the highway. The area has good transport connections (from San Isidro motorway entrance to the obelisk about 1/2 hour outside of rush hour traffic), as well as the railway from Est.Retiro to Tigre.

    There are German schools, e.g. the Goethe School in San Isidro and the Pestalozzi School in BA, both with excellent reputations.

    If you end up in San Isidro, we will be more or less neighbors ... The place is expensive in terms of land / houses, and if it's expensive to buy, the rents are high too.

    Greetings,

    George

  • terranova 06/26/2010, 02:45

    hello georg,

    many thanks for the information from the german schools. my son was born in venezuela and unfortunately i only speak spanish at home. at least that's how he learns German.

    saludos,

    Klaus

  • Klaus, you said above that there are no websites about real estate in AR. That is simply not true. Google is best on the Argentinean google page.

    only as a selection from 3000 hit pages:

    [commercial links removed]

    I found a page that shows the hits on a map (probably a link with google maps or similar), great! However, the link is probably on my computer in Buenos Aires, and I'm sitting in front of my computer in DL.

    Greetings,

    George

  • terranova 27.06.2010, 12:58

    hello georg,

    the pages are not bad! thanks. I'm probably just spoiled by our real estate website here in Venezuela, [commercial link removed].

    saludos

    Klaus